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New Yorkers can’t agree where ‘upstate’ actually begins

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After a New York Times interview with Cynthia Nixon, the age-old question has been resurfaced

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Actress-turned-New York gubernatorial candidate, Cynthia Nixon, has just resurfaced an age-old question that New Yorkers can never really seem to agree upon: Where does “upstate New York” actually begin?

During an interview with the New York Times Magazine, Nixon was asked this question and responded by saying this: “I don’t think the Hudson Valley is upstate. Once you get to Ithaca, by around there, you’re starting to get upstate.” Needless to say, her response raised a few eyebrows and even prompted Washington Post editor and New York native Philip Bump to issue a survey to New Yorkers to get an idea of where New Yorkers think “upstate” begins.

According to Bump, the correct answer is that “Upstate” begins north of Poughkeepsie, where the Metro-North Railroad‘s Hudson line ends. “If you can commute to New York City, you’re not upstate,” he writes.

However, the 1,000-plus New Yorkers that Bump surveyed seem to disagree not only with him, but widely with each other. There were 188 people who responded that “upstate” begins at Albany, while another 148 stated they believed that it started at Westchester County. From there, more than 100 other areas were voted as the place where upstate New York begins, with some starting as early as 125th Street in Harlem, or better yet, at 14th Street in Manhattan (yes, really).

And so now we ask, where does “upstate” New York begin to you? Sound off in the comments below.